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as you mentioned israel stops all military action in israel and hamas stops launching rockets on israel and carrying out border attacks on israeli troops but this is the key thing. there is no signed formal agreement here. instead, israel and hamas reached an understanding, a kind of exchange of quiet for quiet. the first phase of a broader agreement. that should be followed by more intense negotiations, those will be anchored and guaranteed we understand by egypt and the united states. to try to resolve the key demands on both sides. of course, for hamas, the lifting of that 6-year-old blockade of gaza. for israel, it's stopping all the weapons smuggling. but neither will happen immediately. at least, however, they have agreed in principle to these demands and the need to work them out. you had a clip of secretary clinton. she went on to call the cease-fire deal a step in the right direction. she said she looks forward in the days ahead she said to consolidating progress for the people of gaza and israel. and experts are saying that's the key difference here. in previous gaza wars, the
as you mentioned israel stops all military action in israel and hamas stops launching rockets on israel and carrying out border attacks on israeli troops but this is the key thing. there is no signed formal agreement here. instead, israel and hamas reached an understanding, a kind of exchange of quiet for quiet. the first phase of a broader agreement. that should be followed by more intense negotiations, those will be anchored and guaranteed we understand by egypt and the united states. to try...
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israel. that's where i want to begin this morning. i've got nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell and "new york times" columnist tom friedman. who better to have to discuss this. tom, as the two sides get closer to the brink, based on your experience and reporting, where is this going? >> let's just go around the horn, david, quickly. i think hamas is trying to use this moment to both break out of the blockade and try to end targeted killing of its leaders from israel, and trying to take advantage of the new arab spring balance of power, the muslim brotherhood in egypt, to leverage that possibility. israel. israel has been watching for the last six to nine months hamas bringing in longer and longer range missiles from iran. i think they saw this as an opportunity of necessity to take those out, missiles that can now hit tel aviv and jerusalem. egypt. this is a real problem for egypt. you have a new government there that needs money from the united states. they don't want t
israel. that's where i want to begin this morning. i've got nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell and "new york times" columnist tom friedman. who better to have to discuss this. tom, as the two sides get closer to the brink, based on your experience and reporting, where is this going? >> let's just go around the horn, david, quickly. i think hamas is trying to use this moment to both break out of the blockade and try to end targeted killing of its leaders...
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israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is not backing down. >> in the past 24 hours israel has made it clear that it will not tolerate rocket and missile attacks on its civilians. >> nbc's martin fletcher is live for us in tel aviv with the very latest. martin, what's the latest? >> reporter: lynn, good morning. following up on netanyahu's threat, last night they are stressing they will do anything it takes to stop the palestinians from firing rockets into israel. overnight or last night rather 30,000 reserves were given a potential order to report for duty. overnight 16,000 soldiers were told, reserve soldiers were told to report to their units. they're going to join army units amassed on the border of gaza. tank transporters and personnel carriers, thousands of troops going towards the border with gaza ready for a ground invasion. as you suggested in your introduction, lynn, is it a show of force or is it the real thing? we don't know at this point. it's definitely partly a show of force but it could also equally well end in a ground invasion because israelis keep insisting whatev
israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is not backing down. >> in the past 24 hours israel has made it clear that it will not tolerate rocket and missile attacks on its civilians. >> nbc's martin fletcher is live for us in tel aviv with the very latest. martin, what's the latest? >> reporter: lynn, good morning. following up on netanyahu's threat, last night they are stressing they will do anything it takes to stop the palestinians from firing rockets into israel. overnight...
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hillary clinton lands in israel. she's there to broker a truce between israel and hamas. and what could be her last big act before she leaves the stage. for now. >>> and that was -- was this the best out of the 2012 campaign? ♪ oh beautiful for spacious skies ♪ ♪ for amber waves of grain >> the best and worst political ads and candidates coming up in the "sideshow." >>> and let me finish with my advice for the president's second term. i think it's important for him and us. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> okay. >>> okay. so you people are all white, 65 and over, and you live in the sticks, and you are screwing up the republican party because you are believing what i say. this is their explanation for having lost. >> welcome back to "hardball." that was rush limbaugh -- he's a performer -- yesterday telling his audience that so-called reasonable republicans have it wrong. rush is upset because they're calling him one of the problems on the right. but the problem for republicans is that they'll never expand their base if rush is the target audience. let
hillary clinton lands in israel. she's there to broker a truce between israel and hamas. and what could be her last big act before she leaves the stage. for now. >>> and that was -- was this the best out of the 2012 campaign? ♪ oh beautiful for spacious skies ♪ ♪ for amber waves of grain >> the best and worst political ads and candidates coming up in the "sideshow." >>> and let me finish with my advice for the president's second term. i think it's...
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it can't really be the basis of a long-term peace plan between israel and hamas or between israel and the palestinian people. that requires a peace process that keeps falling apart and the quote that you brought up was in connection with the constant failures of -- right now there isn't a peace plan on the table. so people -- they're talking about stopping the shooting. there's no peace plan to go back to. there was a peace process four years ago. we can be cynical about how good that was. you can tell the two sides, shot stopping and you have this set of documents to discuss. at this point, there is nothing. all you're saying to both sides is stop shooting. the next question is what happens after that? >> well, so bobby, you have the leaf letting urging the palestinians to move to central locations in gaza. we had netanyahu saying he's open to stronger military action. i'm kind of wondering is the threat of a ground invasion that's been dangled here sort of a reason we're now apparently on the verge of a cease-fire? did that hasten this? >> i'm sure that played a part in this. hamas
it can't really be the basis of a long-term peace plan between israel and hamas or between israel and the palestinian people. that requires a peace process that keeps falling apart and the quote that you brought up was in connection with the constant failures of -- right now there isn't a peace plan on the table. so people -- they're talking about stopping the shooting. there's no peace plan to go back to. there was a peace process four years ago. we can be cynical about how good that was. you...
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in retaliation for israel keeling hamas' chief. as we look at this, just since wednesday, some 200 rockets have been flown from gaza into southern israel. what's the latest? >> that's right, richard. good morning to you. just a short while ago the military here on the radio station claimed responsibility for the rocket that landed at the southern tip of tel-aviv. it also raises questions about the ongoing operation which is aimed to stop the rocket fire. it certainly hasn't been able to suppress it entirely. this did not start with yesterday's scaling of the military commander. in fact, he was buried today. thousands of people attended his funeral. for them it's been an ongoing conflict over several days. earlier in the week israel ca y carried out several air strikes. that fuelled the latest round of violence. and it is one that is now continuing for at least the third straight day and one that u.s. president obama is trying to deal with. they have started cease fires in the past with israel. they're now heavily gauged in trying t
in retaliation for israel keeling hamas' chief. as we look at this, just since wednesday, some 200 rockets have been flown from gaza into southern israel. what's the latest? >> that's right, richard. good morning to you. just a short while ago the military here on the radio station claimed responsibility for the rocket that landed at the southern tip of tel-aviv. it also raises questions about the ongoing operation which is aimed to stop the rocket fire. it certainly hasn't been able to...
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how about on israel? after the iraq war debacle, the time when the george bush administration turned grief and anger and horror over what happened on 9/11 into a false pretense for attacking a totally unrelated country and starting a war that it took nine years to get out of. ten years on from that unmitigated foreign policy disaster perpetrated by the last republican administration, ten years later, the democrats who went along with that misadventure paid a heavy political price. it's not an accident that so many leading democrats at the time voted to go along with george bush's march to war. it's not an accident that none of them ended up becoming president. it's not an accident that the guy who did become president was the guy who was against the war from the beginning. these are not two unrelated circumstances. the democratic party had a real reckoning about what they got wrong by going along with that bush administration hoax and that disaster perpetrated on the american people. even the press went t
how about on israel? after the iraq war debacle, the time when the george bush administration turned grief and anger and horror over what happened on 9/11 into a false pretense for attacking a totally unrelated country and starting a war that it took nine years to get out of. ten years on from that unmitigated foreign policy disaster perpetrated by the last republican administration, ten years later, the democrats who went along with that misadventure paid a heavy political price. it's not an...
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if you look at this, israel really picked the timing. israel could have gone into a war with hamas almost at any time and found its rocket launches as a pretext. but it chose to do it now. israel has been testing its iron dome defense systems, which would certainly come into play if there was a war with iran. it's been testing the new middle east, testing egypt's stance, forging new relations with rob morrison -- mohamed morsi, seeing how the arab world is post the arab spring. testing hezbollah and testing president obama, who interestingly immediately threw his lot in with israel. the president didn't say we want to call for cessation of hostilities and calm, he said we agree with israel's right to defend itself. israel's real enemy is iran. if remember netanyahu was at the u.n. holding up his bomb chart. he wasn't talking about hamas. he was talking about iran. that is israel's overriding threat. they have been able to deal with hamas pretty handedly. i've seen just yesterday israeli warships able to take out a single hamas militant w
if you look at this, israel really picked the timing. israel could have gone into a war with hamas almost at any time and found its rocket launches as a pretext. but it chose to do it now. israel has been testing its iron dome defense systems, which would certainly come into play if there was a war with iran. it's been testing the new middle east, testing egypt's stance, forging new relations with rob morrison -- mohamed morsi, seeing how the arab world is post the arab spring. testing...
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only a 48-hour truce between israel and hamas. so there's a positive moves ahead going on trying to end this diplomatically. but not everybody is betting on that right now, alex. >> sounds like all the pieces are on the chess board for sure. thank you very much, martin fletcher. >> let's get some perspective on this crisis. joining me is military analyst general mccaffrey. is there a danger this could turn into a larger middle east war? >> no question. i think we're one step shorter of an all out ground operation in the gaza. i don't see how the israelis could top rate continued threat to huge parts of the civilian population. and then in the background, of course, we have the iranians and hezbollah on the lebanese southern border. the israelis are quite vulnerable to these rocket strikes. fit went to all-out war there would be significant israeli losses. >> all right, general, would the u.s. get involved militarily if this does escalate? >> i don't think so. i think the iranians would be loathe to actually start firing their long
only a 48-hour truce between israel and hamas. so there's a positive moves ahead going on trying to end this diplomatically. but not everybody is betting on that right now, alex. >> sounds like all the pieces are on the chess board for sure. thank you very much, martin fletcher. >> let's get some perspective on this crisis. joining me is military analyst general mccaffrey. is there a danger this could turn into a larger middle east war? >> no question. i think we're one step...
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hillary clinton lands in israel. she's there to broker a truce between israel and hamas. and what could be her last big act before she leaves the stage. for now. >>> and that was -- was this the best out of the 2012 campaign? ♪ oh beautiful for spacious skies ♪ ♪ for amber waves of grain >> the best and worst political ads and candidates coming up in the "sideshow." >>> and let me finish with my advice for the president's second term. i think it's important for him and us. this is "hardball," the place for politics. how can you get back pain relief that lasts up to 16 hours? with thermacare heatwraps. thermacare works differently. it's the only wrap with patented heat cells that penetrate deep to relax, soothe, and unlock tight muscles. for up to 16 hours of relief, try thermacare. i'd like to thank eating right, whole grain, multigrain cheerios! mom, are those my jeans? [ female announcer ] people who choose more whole grain tend to weigh less than those who don't. multigrain cheerios >>> okay. so you people are all white, 65 and over, and you live in the sticks, a
hillary clinton lands in israel. she's there to broker a truce between israel and hamas. and what could be her last big act before she leaves the stage. for now. >>> and that was -- was this the best out of the 2012 campaign? ♪ oh beautiful for spacious skies ♪ ♪ for amber waves of grain >> the best and worst political ads and candidates coming up in the "sideshow." >>> and let me finish with my advice for the president's second term. i think it's...
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they hate their neighbor, israel. israel, their neighbor, hates them. most of the area is very, very poor. there is a degree of hopelessness here. they have managed -- the israelis have said to the egyptians, with this deal, now gaza is your problem. if rockets come out of here, the egyptians are going to be responsible for talking to hamas. both of you are sort of from similar parties. the islamic hamas group, which is an offshoot of the muslim brotherhood, and the muslim brotherhood in egypt, hamas managed to say, okay, you two sort things out together, and we'll see how this goes. >> richard, one of the other things i was struck by is how vague what both sides agreed to is. both sides have agreed to not breach acts for this understanding. it's almost like a fortune cookie, meaningless vague. does that vagueness make a stronger agreement or a weaker one. does that say anything to you? >> reporter: i think this got lawyered pretty hard. what that means is that israel is not supposed to carry out any sort of targeted assassinations. and when you start t
they hate their neighbor, israel. israel, their neighbor, hates them. most of the area is very, very poor. there is a degree of hopelessness here. they have managed -- the israelis have said to the egyptians, with this deal, now gaza is your problem. if rockets come out of here, the egyptians are going to be responsible for talking to hamas. both of you are sort of from similar parties. the islamic hamas group, which is an offshoot of the muslim brotherhood, and the muslim brotherhood in egypt,...
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everyone agrees israel has the right to protect itself, but might it be sometimes that israel's best protection is to not attack? when you think about people in hamas and hezbollah, when they were martyrs when they die during fighting, they go to heaven and get posters of themselves put on the street forever. they want to be martyrs, so whatever attack israel launches, hamas keeps going because they want to die. the person they killed, the head of hamas' military wing was in the midst of considering a cease-fire. he was a person who could have made that happen. so in taking him out, they sort of damaged the potential for a long-term cease-fire. is israel taking a step backwards in being so aggressive here? >> not at all. as a matter of fact, i happen to believe that the narrative of this is that as long as hamas continues to fire terrorist missiles into israel and israel's compelled to retaliate, hamas is setting up the stage for major civilian casualties. it's as if every missile that hamas fires at israel is going to result in almost the suicide of its own people, and that is reall
everyone agrees israel has the right to protect itself, but might it be sometimes that israel's best protection is to not attack? when you think about people in hamas and hezbollah, when they were martyrs when they die during fighting, they go to heaven and get posters of themselves put on the street forever. they want to be martyrs, so whatever attack israel launches, hamas keeps going because they want to die. the person they killed, the head of hamas' military wing was in the midst of...
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and to make the southern cities of israel secure. the defense minister said today and he emphasized this, and we will do anything, and i repeat anything to keep those cities secure. the israelis are emphasizing repeatedly from different sources they'll do whatever it takes. when the americans warn that israel will do more this evening, they're echoing what the israeli spokesman said earlier. this is a very difficult night ahead. >> and martin, i'm sure you heard our colleague talk about the level of tension and how the expectation of what is next is consuming those that he's witnessed in gaza. what are seeing there? is there a worry this will escalate beyond the point that we are now, which is frightening in itself? >> reporter: it certainly is frightening in itself. the big fear is of a ground invasion by israeli forces into gaza. the air attacks are bad enough and killed 13 palestinians at least. they've injured a couple of hundred, and on the israeli side three israelis were killed today, and about 70 are in hospital. most of them
and to make the southern cities of israel secure. the defense minister said today and he emphasized this, and we will do anything, and i repeat anything to keep those cities secure. the israelis are emphasizing repeatedly from different sources they'll do whatever it takes. when the americans warn that israel will do more this evening, they're echoing what the israeli spokesman said earlier. this is a very difficult night ahead. >> and martin, i'm sure you heard our colleague talk about...
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one is israel is a great ally, there's domestic political support for a strong relationship with israel. at the same time it's also supposed to be the kind of neutral arbiter, the mediator in the region that will bring this about. it seems we don't do a good job of playing those two rules. >> well those two roles have also been intentioned, they've grown more intentioned over time. you had eight years of an administration that really gave up on trying to play the arbiter role, at which point the figure leaf kind of came away. the administration did a great job actually tactically, playing both of those roles in a way that they hadn't done at all during the first term, sending the secretary of state out to be the arbiter while the president could give the defender of israel speeches like that that's a tactical solution that doesn't get anywhere near the long-term structural problem that it isn't the same middle east that it was five years ago. what do you do instead? how do you serve the long-term interests of israel, especially when maybe many americans don't see israel's long-term inte
one is israel is a great ally, there's domestic political support for a strong relationship with israel. at the same time it's also supposed to be the kind of neutral arbiter, the mediator in the region that will bring this about. it seems we don't do a good job of playing those two rules. >> well those two roles have also been intentioned, they've grown more intentioned over time. you had eight years of an administration that really gave up on trying to play the arbiter role, at which...
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and israel. you is a very different dynamic now and why this is also a very big test to egypt, to its credit, america is allowing egypt to immediate this and so far, egyptian officials say they are not [ inaudible ] a peace treaty with israel. president morsi says he's committed to the international obligations but he's also using his leverage to perhaps rein in hamas. it's not necessarily that hamas feels empowered but now perhaps egypt's president is saying to hamas you also have a responsibility to govern, you can't just fire these rockets indiscriminately and trigger this type of backlash. this isn't only a crossroads for israel and gaza, it has a tremendous amount of implications for egypt and u.s. foreign policy vis-a-vis the new emerging realities of the arab world. >> i want to open this up to our panel in new york. something that has been going on that i don't think has got an ton of coverage, is how the israeli defense ministry is using twitter to sort of talk about what they are doing.
and israel. you is a very different dynamic now and why this is also a very big test to egypt, to its credit, america is allowing egypt to immediate this and so far, egyptian officials say they are not [ inaudible ] a peace treaty with israel. president morsi says he's committed to the international obligations but he's also using his leverage to perhaps rein in hamas. it's not necessarily that hamas feels empowered but now perhaps egypt's president is saying to hamas you also have a...
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israel wouldn't want to escalate. they thought basically they could create a new normal, israel would adjust. israel made the decision we're not going to adjust, there's not going to be a new normal. they're going to have to adjust to the reality. >> ambassador, i was speaking earlier with the former legal adviser for the palestine liberation organization. i asked her about the solution, a potential solution going forward and what might need to happen. this is what she said. >> the message that they should be sending is a very clear one to president obama that now is the time to actually deal with this issue. he can't keep this issue festering for another four years and leave it up to another president. it's time to deal with this decisively and deal with it now. >> ambassador s this the time? >> well, obviously it would be great to be able to produce peace. you also have to deal with the reality. hamas controls gaza. the palestinian authority controls the west bank. you know, there's a context here that doesn't make
israel wouldn't want to escalate. they thought basically they could create a new normal, israel would adjust. israel made the decision we're not going to adjust, there's not going to be a new normal. they're going to have to adjust to the reality. >> ambassador, i was speaking earlier with the former legal adviser for the palestine liberation organization. i asked her about the solution, a potential solution going forward and what might need to happen. this is what she said. >> the...
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they are firing lots of rockets at israel, and israel is blaming those attacks on hamas because hamas is the regional power broker. i don't know if that's really going to progress ourselves forward. these kind of al qaeda splinter groups never stop firing rockets. hamas has no control over them. if there's a constant cycle where these groups fire a rocket to become a spoiler, israel retaliates and there's a clush of forces and nothing gets resolved. it's hard to see where the progress is there. >> evan, let's broaden it out and see where progress could happen or be kept from happening, because this week a hamas commander was killed after an israeli assault, which followed a rocket attack from hamas. broader than that right now we have 30,000 israeli reservists called up just today. so that's like israel saying every man get your gun and come down here and fight. more than that, we have netanyahu is up for election in january. we have morsi with just basically still the new head of egypt. the muslim brotherhood does not like or respect israel at all. how do these other pieces, these le
they are firing lots of rockets at israel, and israel is blaming those attacks on hamas because hamas is the regional power broker. i don't know if that's really going to progress ourselves forward. these kind of al qaeda splinter groups never stop firing rockets. hamas has no control over them. if there's a constant cycle where these groups fire a rocket to become a spoiler, israel retaliates and there's a clush of forces and nothing gets resolved. it's hard to see where the progress is there....
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israel doesn't want to do that. they want to pair up the old agreements that says are necessary to restrict the flow of goods goo gaza, to restrict the e flow of weapons and israel believes in you allow more products to come into gaza, there will be more weapons coming in and israel is positioned thus far -- stop firing rockets and then with hamas about some of these other things like the trade restrictions. >> we're having a little trouble with your uplink in terms of you jumping in and out of your question. let me ask about secretary of state hillary clinton arriving in the region. what are the best hopes and expectations for what she's going to be able to do? is she going to change anything in terms of the balance of power and how this is likely to be resolved? >> it depends if she can convince the egyptians to convince hamas. they feel confident because the arab spring has given it a new batch of friends. if hillary clinton can pressure hamas and can be persuaded by mohamed morsi her chances are pretty good. if
israel doesn't want to do that. they want to pair up the old agreements that says are necessary to restrict the flow of goods goo gaza, to restrict the e flow of weapons and israel believes in you allow more products to come into gaza, there will be more weapons coming in and israel is positioned thus far -- stop firing rockets and then with hamas about some of these other things like the trade restrictions. >> we're having a little trouble with your uplink in terms of you jumping in and...
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clearly throughout israel. but the fact is, you have this densely populated area and people -- civilians dying because they are living, you know, side by side in the same buildings as hamas leaders that you take out? >> that is the fault of hamas. hamas has put its fighters in the very midst of a densely populated area because they not only have a military strategy of trying to kill the maximum number of israeli citizens, they have a media strategy. they want us to fire back at them and if we injure pll civilians or -- palestinian civilians or kill them tragically, they can use that sensationalize, put the pictures on the newspaper and delegitimize us and deny us the right to defend ourselves. if we injure or god forbid kill palestinians for us that's a tragedy. if they kill israelis for them that's a victory. it's completely different set of rules for hamas and for israel. this time, we were able to reduce in this round of fighting -- the last round was in 2008 -- 2009, a higher level of civilian casualties. w
clearly throughout israel. but the fact is, you have this densely populated area and people -- civilians dying because they are living, you know, side by side in the same buildings as hamas leaders that you take out? >> that is the fault of hamas. hamas has put its fighters in the very midst of a densely populated area because they not only have a military strategy of trying to kill the maximum number of israeli citizens, they have a media strategy. they want us to fire back at them and...
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how do you serve israel when many americans don't see israel's long term interest as they do. we are not talking about the hundreds of people who died in syria over the time of gaza. we have a long -- you know, the administration did a great job on the short term, but we have a long term problem that our political system won't let us figure out. >> picking up on what heather is saying it poses a test for the obama administration and the trons formation in the middle east. you see it in the fascinating relationship between president obama and morsi. two pragmatists trying to find a way to mediate this immediate conflict. you see it against the backdrop of an islamist backdrop of turkey and the riots in jordan that will cause increasing problems. you have that changing environment which you know more about. the arabs need something different. the governments need to be more responsive to their people. it's an opening for a different relationship. no american president is going to criticize, i would argue, israel's launching of this war. it is an opening for our relationship with
how do you serve israel when many americans don't see israel's long term interest as they do. we are not talking about the hundreds of people who died in syria over the time of gaza. we have a long -- you know, the administration did a great job on the short term, but we have a long term problem that our political system won't let us figure out. >> picking up on what heather is saying it poses a test for the obama administration and the trons formation in the middle east. you see it in...
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he immediately said we agree with israel's right to defend itself. israel's real enemy is iran. they were at the u.n. holding up his bomb chart. he was talking about iran. that is israel's overriding threat. they have been able to deal with them handedly. i have seen yesterday israeli warships able to take out a single hamas militant who was sitting in a chair by the water front. so one warship fired a rocket. you could barely ship on the horizon. israel has been telephoning the houses of neighbors of militants and telling them to get out. it has their phone numbers. so there's something suspicious. israel has too much intelligence. they have been able to deal with them too confidently. you have to wonder is there really a different objective. >> could it be better for israel to get rid of the missile sites in hamas before they attack iran? therefore, they can't be used for retaliation? >> reporter: that's an extra bonus. you get to defend your own cities. you figure out how well the iron dome system works, which is an untested system. you set back hamas's capabilities. you test
he immediately said we agree with israel's right to defend itself. israel's real enemy is iran. they were at the u.n. holding up his bomb chart. he was talking about iran. that is israel's overriding threat. they have been able to deal with them handedly. i have seen yesterday israeli warships able to take out a single hamas militant who was sitting in a chair by the water front. so one warship fired a rocket. you could barely ship on the horizon. israel has been telephoning the houses of...
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this was just the trial run. >> israel next month. >> israel as well. >> very quickly, mike, because i want to get to this because i was struck by it when we talked about it earlier. a bit about benghazi and susan rice. 97 house republicans sent this letter to president obama. i want to just read a little bit from it. ambassador rice is widely viewed as having willfully or incompetently misled the american public. her actions give u.s. allies and rivals abroad reason to question u.s. commitment and credibility when needed. the president last week in his press conference seemed very gung ho on susan rice. what do you make of the politics of this? as i pointed out to dom and he pointed out, too, 97 house republicans or 250 doesn't matter because this is not a matter for house republicans if he does nominate her. what do you make of the susan rice fight? is it a fight worth having if you're the president of the united states? >> well, look, when i look at the benghazi issue, i see serious issues about security, did we get our understanding of what was going on in libya right? i'm not su
this was just the trial run. >> israel next month. >> israel as well. >> very quickly, mike, because i want to get to this because i was struck by it when we talked about it earlier. a bit about benghazi and susan rice. 97 house republicans sent this letter to president obama. i want to just read a little bit from it. ambassador rice is widely viewed as having willfully or incompetently misled the american public. her actions give u.s. allies and rivals abroad reason to...
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so long as israel maintains a siege on gaza. they want it lifted and they want guaranteed backed by the international community that israel will no longer engage and target and kill senior leaders of the palestinian factions here in gaza. they want all of these demands guaranteed by the international community. for its part israel wants to approach it from a different angle. they want a complete cessation of hostilities for 38 hours for so followed by a -- other concerns they have. the challenge for egypt is to try and close that gap as quickly as possible because essentially everyone here feels that they're running out of time. you have the israelis amassed on the border and palestinian factions still firing rockets and caught in the middle are the 19.6 million palestinians living in gaza subject to the attacks from the israeli side. this is the challenge egyptians negotiate with the u.n. officials today including the secretary-general as well as turkey's prime minister and regional leaders participating in these talks. tamron.
so long as israel maintains a siege on gaza. they want it lifted and they want guaranteed backed by the international community that israel will no longer engage and target and kill senior leaders of the palestinian factions here in gaza. they want all of these demands guaranteed by the international community. for its part israel wants to approach it from a different angle. they want a complete cessation of hostilities for 38 hours for so followed by a -- other concerns they have. the...
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would say if 700 rockets hit you, israel has a right to self-defense. if this gets out of hand, you have a new government in egypt that shares some roots, some political roots, with hamas but doesn't want to wreck its relationship with us. you have the situation in syria that is so violent and i think israel knows that it wants to be careful not to let this out of hand. and so maybe this three party, i agree with martin, this three-party agreement could be very important and maybe a sign that in his second term president obama is going to get more engaged in the peace process. there has been talk of sending president clinton as a mideast envoy. i thought that was an intriguing idea. but at least i think this is -- these are all very good signs for the situation. >> e.j., stay with us, and martin fletcher, thanks to you. i want to bring in senator chris koonce. senator, good morning. >> good morning 0, chris. >> the senate did unanimously pass that resolution standing by israel, something you co-response arored. what do you think hillary clinton brings t
would say if 700 rockets hit you, israel has a right to self-defense. if this gets out of hand, you have a new government in egypt that shares some roots, some political roots, with hamas but doesn't want to wreck its relationship with us. you have the situation in syria that is so violent and i think israel knows that it wants to be careful not to let this out of hand. and so maybe this three party, i agree with martin, this three-party agreement could be very important and maybe a sign that...
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breaking news right now from israel. this morning, israeli television is reporting that three israelis were killed in rocket strikes in the southern region of that country. this comes as the israeli military has launched an aggressive campaign to cripple hamas after repeated rocket attacks. as many as 750 this year launched from gaza into southern israel. last night president obama spoke on the phone with prime minister benjamin netanyahu acknowledging israel's right to defend itself following but also urging netanyahu to avoid civilian casualties. hours earlier the israeli government posted this video from youtube showing an air strike yesterday in gaza that killed ahmed al jabari, he is the top military member of hamas. that was a widespread campaign against hamas targets that the israeli military had said it will broaden in the coming days. this morning israeli defense forces, the idf, dropped leaflets over gaza warning residents there to stay away from hamas operatives. >>> also on twitter, a clear message from the i
breaking news right now from israel. this morning, israeli television is reporting that three israelis were killed in rocket strikes in the southern region of that country. this comes as the israeli military has launched an aggressive campaign to cripple hamas after repeated rocket attacks. as many as 750 this year launched from gaza into southern israel. last night president obama spoke on the phone with prime minister benjamin netanyahu acknowledging israel's right to defend itself following...
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with 300 in israel. i'm curious about that calculation, 100 to 300. as you noted in your reporting, the hamas rockets are much less accurate. what is the effect that the air strikes, or the israeli air strikes are having gaza, and militarily speaking, are these two sides on equal footing? >> well, you know, the short answer to that is absolutely not. in fact, the israeli ambassador mentioned that half of the population is in bunkers. well, the entire population of gaza is not in bunkers because they don't have bunkers, and there is no early warning system. the only thing we are hearing right now are the sounds of the israeli drones above, with the possibility they could strike any time. when you talk to palestinians, what they will tell you is they are living in a state of fear, a state of terror. they don't know when these attacks are going to happen. and to add to that point, they are not two equal mill tears fighting side by side. the israeli military is one of the most advanced well equipped militari
with 300 in israel. i'm curious about that calculation, 100 to 300. as you noted in your reporting, the hamas rockets are much less accurate. what is the effect that the air strikes, or the israeli air strikes are having gaza, and militarily speaking, are these two sides on equal footing? >> well, you know, the short answer to that is absolutely not. in fact, the israeli ambassador mentioned that half of the population is in bunkers. well, the entire population of gaza is not in bunkers...
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involvement from the start in the creation of israel. a deep concern about wanting to help israel secure itself. but also bring about peace in the middle east. i'd like to complicate this story more by bringing in a regional context. yes, there is internal politics that drives this, there's history that drives it. israel and hamas are dealing with a different regional context as well. hamas had been tolerated by but not really liked by the mubarak government in israel which is in many ways the patron of palestinians in the middle east. the morsi government is more supportive of hamas. they used to be based in damascus, syria. they moved out pretty much just in time as the assad regime begins to crumble there and have found new friend in the region as they distance themselves from syria. israel is finding a region in which it has fewer friend and hamas is in a region in which it has fewer allies. growing arab frustration over lack of progress in the peace process has also driven countries in the region to hamas as well. >> this is where i
involvement from the start in the creation of israel. a deep concern about wanting to help israel secure itself. but also bring about peace in the middle east. i'd like to complicate this story more by bringing in a regional context. yes, there is internal politics that drives this, there's history that drives it. israel and hamas are dealing with a different regional context as well. hamas had been tolerated by but not really liked by the mubarak government in israel which is in many ways the...
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it's changing by the minute out of israel. this morning israeli tv reporting three israelis were killed in rocket strikes in the southern part of the country. this comes as the israeli military has launched an aggressive new campaign to cripple hamas after repeated rocket attacks. as many as 750 this year, they say, launched from gaza into southern israel. last night president obama spoke on the phone with prime minister benjamin netanyahu acknowledging israel's right to defend itself but also urging him to not have civilian casualties. this youtube video showing an air strike yesterday killing the top military commander of hamas. it was part of a widespread campaign against targets that the israeli military says it will broaden in the coming days. this morning defense forces dropped leaflets over gaza warning residents to stay away from hamas operatives. on twitter, a clear message from israeli defense forces. quote, we recommend that no hamas operatives, whether low level or senior leaders, show their faces above ground in t
it's changing by the minute out of israel. this morning israeli tv reporting three israelis were killed in rocket strikes in the southern part of the country. this comes as the israeli military has launched an aggressive new campaign to cripple hamas after repeated rocket attacks. as many as 750 this year, they say, launched from gaza into southern israel. last night president obama spoke on the phone with prime minister benjamin netanyahu acknowledging israel's right to defend itself but also...
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according to israel, this is a house belonging to a senior official of hamas, but at the same time there were 12 people inside of that house, including four women and four children. all of them killed. so many people are condemning that attack. meanwhile, it is nighttime here and the people of gaza are bracing themselves for what could be another night of deadly attacks despite the diplomatic activity in cairo. negotiations are under way as well as palestinian factions as to what to do next, but those here in gaza say they are preparing for a ground invasion, and meaning if israel launches a war, they will fight and they are prepared to defend their territory as they say and on the same side israelis say they have finalized preparation for a ground invasion and now it is a matter of a political decision, and certainly something that everybody in cairo is trying to avert, but one that everybody here thinks it is not going to be averted any time soon. thomas? >> well, you talk about the diplomatic conversations in cairo, and what is on the table? what terms are being discussed? >> well, tw
according to israel, this is a house belonging to a senior official of hamas, but at the same time there were 12 people inside of that house, including four women and four children. all of them killed. so many people are condemning that attack. meanwhile, it is nighttime here and the people of gaza are bracing themselves for what could be another night of deadly attacks despite the diplomatic activity in cairo. negotiations are under way as well as palestinian factions as to what to do next,...
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and israel will not tolerate this situation. i hope that hamas and the other terror organizations in gaza got the message. if not, israel is prepared to take whatever action is necessary to defend our people. >> that was israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu in a press conference yesterday as bombings continued between israel and hamas in gaza. today the conflict is rapidly escalating. a hamas rocket struck north of jerusalem this morning and rockets landed in southern tel aviv for the first time in 20 years. israel is now amassing troops along the border with gaza and put 30,000 army reservist troops on alert. egyptian prime minister herb m candill visited and had this to say -- on behalf of the egyptian government and president we have come to stand with the palestinians. palestine is the heart of the arab and muslim world and the body is not healthy while the heart is sick. israel agreed to a brief cease-fire as the egyptian prime minister visited gaza that collapsed after they accused hamas of resuming attacks. at least
and israel will not tolerate this situation. i hope that hamas and the other terror organizations in gaza got the message. if not, israel is prepared to take whatever action is necessary to defend our people. >> that was israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu in a press conference yesterday as bombings continued between israel and hamas in gaza. today the conflict is rapidly escalating. a hamas rocket struck north of jerusalem this morning and rockets landed in southern tel aviv for...
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they have fought wars with israel on behalf of the palestinians. this cuts deep in the arab identity and simply won't give it up, won't let anyone assume the negotiations on behalf of the palestinians and that's why people have seen this, the rise of the muslim brother hood and particularly the presidency of mohammed morsi as a positive sin to be a break through for the region for stability and for u.s. interests as well. >> we will certainly be following it. all roads lead to cairo. that's been true for hundreds if not thousands of years. ayman mohyeldin thank you for your reporting from gaza. stay safe. >>> after the break, loopholes, brackets, increased revenue. are democrats and republicans ready to come to the table and make a deal? we will talk to luke russert and martin bashir about getting a piece of the tax pie, next on "now." ♪ [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to make changes. but it never hurts to see if you can find better coverage, save money, o
they have fought wars with israel on behalf of the palestinians. this cuts deep in the arab identity and simply won't give it up, won't let anyone assume the negotiations on behalf of the palestinians and that's why people have seen this, the rise of the muslim brother hood and particularly the presidency of mohammed morsi as a positive sin to be a break through for the region for stability and for u.s. interests as well. >> we will certainly be following it. all roads lead to cairo....
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presses for a ceasefire between israel and hamas. it's a delicate balancing act for the new egyptian leader who was swept to power at the backing of the muslim brother who had who has historically been an ally of hamas. jim maceda joins us from cairo. to me this is the most fascinating subplot within the tension between israel and hamas, the role of egypt. what is mohamed morsi's role in all of this and is there any sense of agreement from the egyptians they're trying to help ease the tension? we know president obama has been on the phone with mohamed morsi constantly over the last 48 hours. >> reporter: hi there, luke. we'll get more of an idea after secretary of state clinton meets with president morsi. she is just wrapping up that meeting. she is then going to see the foreign minister here and then give a press conference. hopefully in terms of the agreement, the second part of your question, we'll be getting some answers. in terms of morsi's role, as you say, he's a key mediator here. and if he emerges with a deal, there's no que
presses for a ceasefire between israel and hamas. it's a delicate balancing act for the new egyptian leader who was swept to power at the backing of the muslim brother who had who has historically been an ally of hamas. jim maceda joins us from cairo. to me this is the most fascinating subplot within the tension between israel and hamas, the role of egypt. what is mohamed morsi's role in all of this and is there any sense of agreement from the egyptians they're trying to help ease the tension?...
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and israel. here's israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu earlier today. >> the palestinians must recognize the jewish state. and they must be prepared to end the conflict with israel once and for all. none of these vital interests, these vital interests of peace, none of them appear in the resolution that will be put forward before the general assembly today. and that is why israel cannot accept it. >> joining me now to talk more about this, former state department mideast officer joel ruben. also palestinian italian journalist and msnbc contributor willa jabroe. both israel and the u.s. say the resolution violates agreements to solve issues through negotiations which broke down two years ago. on the heels of the recent violent clashes between gaza and israel is now the right time for this vote? >> well, it's a fate acomply that the vote is going to take place. it's been in the works for some time before -- really the bigger issue is how will the parties react after it? there's been a calm re
and israel. here's israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu earlier today. >> the palestinians must recognize the jewish state. and they must be prepared to end the conflict with israel once and for all. none of these vital interests, these vital interests of peace, none of them appear in the resolution that will be put forward before the general assembly today. and that is why israel cannot accept it. >> joining me now to talk more about this, former state department mideast...
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. >> what does this do to israel and to the united states? >> well, look. i mean we -- let's not -- you know egypt is the most important arab state, the first state to sign a peace treaty with israel in the 1970s. egypt is a major, major ally of the united states, not vis-a-vis just israel but also in the broader middle east as well. it affects not just egypt but the neighborhood as well. egypt played a critical role this brokering a truce between hamas and israel. hamas looks up to morsi. hamas listens them. even israel, i would argue, recognize the frounld invasion of hamas because egypt is a pivotal player and because the peace treaty was on line. that's why what happens in egypt not only affects egyptians, it affects the neighborhood and egypt relation with the person powers. in particular it affects them in the middle east and rain world. >> right now a 100-constituent assembly is working on drafting a constitution in egypt. liberals and christians walked out. so basically it's being run by islamists now. some have said part of president morsi's calcul
. >> what does this do to israel and to the united states? >> well, look. i mean we -- let's not -- you know egypt is the most important arab state, the first state to sign a peace treaty with israel in the 1970s. egypt is a major, major ally of the united states, not vis-a-vis just israel but also in the broader middle east as well. it affects not just egypt but the neighborhood as well. egypt played a critical role this brokering a truce between hamas and israel. hamas looks up to...
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any more than it's in israel's interests. so -- but these are people who have long been in opposition and they're having to learn to balance these political calculations as they go forward. >> right. and there's no rest after election day when you're the active president. p.j. will stay with us as we turn to another discussion right on point with president obama's foreign policy team. many republicans are attacking ambassador susan rice, a top candidate to replace secretary of state clinton. the senate has spiked some key nominations from president obama before, from elizabeth warren to nobel peace prize winner peter diamond. there is one number that suggests obama is likely to win this battle. we will look at the math after the break on "now." so you say men are superior drivers? yeah. then how'd i get this... [ voice of dennis ] ...safe driving bonus check? every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? [ male announcer ] it's that time of year. time for
any more than it's in israel's interests. so -- but these are people who have long been in opposition and they're having to learn to balance these political calculations as they go forward. >> right. and there's no rest after election day when you're the active president. p.j. will stay with us as we turn to another discussion right on point with president obama's foreign policy team. many republicans are attacking ambassador susan rice, a top candidate to replace secretary of state...
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israel has toned down the threat but was should drop them altogether as congress. it makes no sense to punish pun palestinian committed to a peaceful solution. it now needs to put its energies into forging commitments to restart the peace talks. >> i think that's critical. the next two months, how we react to this, obviously congress may well try to eliminate all aid to the palestinian authority. that has its own problems in terms of driving them towards potential bankruptcy. israel has potential weapon in withholding tax revenue, collects on behalf of the palestinians. the best outcome here would be the united states goes well, we regret this, let's move on. and then the other aspect would, standing up immediately after this, but today in the u.n. and and say, i'm prepared to go into negotiations without preconditions. if you get those three, you know, legs of the stool, now you have something to kind of work with, if otherwise if everyone takes their own unilateral action you come out of this again, empowering hamas. >> p.j., where is the white house on this? i m
israel has toned down the threat but was should drop them altogether as congress. it makes no sense to punish pun palestinian committed to a peaceful solution. it now needs to put its energies into forging commitments to restart the peace talks. >> i think that's critical. the next two months, how we react to this, obviously congress may well try to eliminate all aid to the palestinian authority. that has its own problems in terms of driving them towards potential bankruptcy. israel has...
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from gaza we are getting a continued barrage of rockets here in israel, 16 since midnight. one of those rockets hit a school. that school suffered damage but there was no one injured in the attack. veronica? >> stephanie gosk in tel aviv this morning. we appreciate it. thank you very much. >>> lawmakers are turning the heat on the obama administration about what officials knew and when regarding the september 11th attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya, that killed four americans, including ambassador chris stevens. on sunday, lawmakers called on susan rice to testify before congress on her remarks after the attack. at issue are rice's talking points and why a final draft was changed to down play the role of terrorists, a fact supported by friday's closed door testimony of former cia director, david petraeus. republicans portrayed rice as a pawn of the president's election year agenda. >> the story she told reinforced the political narrative helpful to the president. i don't know what she knew, but i knew the story she told was misleading. >> we are going to find o
from gaza we are getting a continued barrage of rockets here in israel, 16 since midnight. one of those rockets hit a school. that school suffered damage but there was no one injured in the attack. veronica? >> stephanie gosk in tel aviv this morning. we appreciate it. thank you very much. >>> lawmakers are turning the heat on the obama administration about what officials knew and when regarding the september 11th attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya, that killed four...
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that would help the process of delegitimizing israel in the eyes of the world, presenting israel as a criminal. that's an issue which is of great concern. >> the fact of the matter, that will only setback actual peace negotiations. martin fletcher in tel aviv. thank you. busy week for you. >>> up next, breaking with boehner. the first republican to endorse the president's version of a compromise on taxes to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. oklahoma congressman tom cole joins me next. first, a look ahead at the president's schedule. one big thing on the schedule today that everybody is fairly interested in. that's that lunch with mitt romney. we're told no cameras. we'll see. we of the white house press corps officially protesting. we'd like to force them to let there be some official fourth estate coverage of this historic event. we'll see if they grant it. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. a winter wonderland doesn't just happen. it takes some doing. some coordinating. and a trip to the one place with the new ideas that help us pull it all together. from the things
that would help the process of delegitimizing israel in the eyes of the world, presenting israel as a criminal. that's an issue which is of great concern. >> the fact of the matter, that will only setback actual peace negotiations. martin fletcher in tel aviv. thank you. busy week for you. >>> up next, breaking with boehner. the first republican to endorse the president's version of a compromise on taxes to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. oklahoma congressman tom cole joins me...